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Solana's Founder on Stablecoins, the Clarity Act, and Becoming the Global Execution Layer of Finance

Solana's Founder on Stablecoins, the Clarity Act, and Becoming the Global Execution Layer of Finance

Solana's Founder on Stablecoins, the Clarity Act, and Becoming the Global Execution Layer of Finance

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THESIS

The Genius Act and stablecoin legislation could route trillions in US Treasuries through permissionless blockchains, making the internet the largest holder of US debt within five years.

The Genius Act and stablecoin legislation could route trillions in US Treasuries through permissionless blockchains, making the internet the largest holder of US debt within five years.

The Genius Act and stablecoin legislation could route trillions in US Treasuries through permissionless blockchains, making the internet the largest holder of US debt within five years.

ASSET CLASS

ASSET CLASS

SECULAR

SECULAR

CONVICTION

CONVICTION

HIGH

HIGH

TIME HORIZON

TIME HORIZON

5 years

5 years

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PREMISE

PREMISE

The global financial system runs on post-WWII infrastructure with fax-machine-era APIs, while trillions in demand for dollar-denominated assets exists outside the US banking system

The global financial system runs on post-WWII infrastructure with fax-machine-era APIs, while trillions in demand for dollar-denominated assets exists outside the US banking system

Yakovenko argues that America possesses the world's most trusted and robust financial system, but its technical infrastructure was built before the internet and cannot natively interface with global participants. Meanwhile, stablecoin issuers like Tether have already climbed to roughly the fifth-largest holder of US Treasuries, demonstrating massive latent demand for dollar exposure from outside traditional banking channels. The structural imbalance is that the demand for US financial assets is global and growing, but the delivery mechanism is antiquated and geographically constrained. NASDAQ, banks, and regulated exchanges are each trapped in their own sandboxes. Crypto protocols like Solana offer a globally synchronous, low-latency execution layer — a single ledger available in Nairobi, New York, London, and Singapore with assets moving at the 120-millisecond roundtrip speed of light through fiber. This creates a physics-level advantage over legacy rails.

Yakovenko argues that America possesses the world's most trusted and robust financial system, but its technical infrastructure was built before the internet and cannot natively interface with global participants. Meanwhile, stablecoin issuers like Tether have already climbed to roughly the fifth-largest holder of US Treasuries, demonstrating massive latent demand for dollar exposure from outside traditional banking channels. The structural imbalance is that the demand for US financial assets is global and growing, but the delivery mechanism is antiquated and geographically constrained. NASDAQ, banks, and regulated exchanges are each trapped in their own sandboxes. Crypto protocols like Solana offer a globally synchronous, low-latency execution layer — a single ledger available in Nairobi, New York, London, and Singapore with assets moving at the 120-millisecond roundtrip speed of light through fiber. This creates a physics-level advantage over legacy rails.

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MECHANISM

MECHANISM

The Genius Act and Clarity Act create the regulatory on-ramp that converts latent global demand into on-chain Treasury flows at unprecedented scale

The Genius Act and Clarity Act create the regulatory on-ramp that converts latent global demand into on-chain Treasury flows at unprecedented scale

The catalyst is legislative: the Genius Act is expected to unlock an estimated 1 to 10 trillion dollars in stablecoins operating on public permissionless chains. Each stablecoin dollar is effectively backed by US Treasuries, meaning this legislation directly channels global capital into American sovereign debt through crypto rails rather than traditional banking. Simultaneously, the Clarity Act reduces the regulatory friction for launching tokens in the US — Yakovenko spent over 10% of his seed funding on legal fees just to launch a token domestically. Once these regulatory bottlenecks clear, the forcing function compounds: regulated exchanges like NASDAQ can integrate with Solana by simply running a node, enabling on-chain trading of tokenized securities. Real-world assets — real estate, bonds, commodities, insurance — flow onto the chain, creating uncorrelated asset pools that DeFi protocols need for genuine risk management. The mechanism is a regulatory unlock that converts Solana from a memecoin execution engine into the global execution layer for all of finance, with incumbent institutions voluntarily plugging in because it makes them more money.

The catalyst is legislative: the Genius Act is expected to unlock an estimated 1 to 10 trillion dollars in stablecoins operating on public permissionless chains. Each stablecoin dollar is effectively backed by US Treasuries, meaning this legislation directly channels global capital into American sovereign debt through crypto rails rather than traditional banking. Simultaneously, the Clarity Act reduces the regulatory friction for launching tokens in the US — Yakovenko spent over 10% of his seed funding on legal fees just to launch a token domestically. Once these regulatory bottlenecks clear, the forcing function compounds: regulated exchanges like NASDAQ can integrate with Solana by simply running a node, enabling on-chain trading of tokenized securities. Real-world assets — real estate, bonds, commodities, insurance — flow onto the chain, creating uncorrelated asset pools that DeFi protocols need for genuine risk management. The mechanism is a regulatory unlock that converts Solana from a memecoin execution engine into the global execution layer for all of finance, with incumbent institutions voluntarily plugging in because it makes them more money.

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OUTCOME

OUTCOME

The internet becomes the largest holder of US Treasuries, Solana captures the execution layer of global finance, and issuer/receiver banks face disintermediation

The internet becomes the largest holder of US Treasuries, Solana captures the execution layer of global finance, and issuer/receiver banks face disintermediation

Within five years, Yakovenko projects the internet will surpass China, Japan, and every sovereign nation as the largest holder of US Treasuries, driven by stablecoin proliferation. Solana's specific outcome is becoming the global execution engine — distinct from Ethereum's settlement role — where all markets run on a single synchronized ledger. The downstream effects include traditional exchanges like NASDAQ running Solana nodes for direct integration, Visa and Mastercard potentially cutting out issuer and receiver banks (whose 2% margins are far more vulnerable than Visa's 10 basis point technology margin), and a new creator economy where tokens function as investable equity in content projects. The net result is a massive acceleration of American financial influence globally, with US-aligned crypto infrastructure spreading dollar dominance far beyond what legacy banking could achieve.

Within five years, Yakovenko projects the internet will surpass China, Japan, and every sovereign nation as the largest holder of US Treasuries, driven by stablecoin proliferation. Solana's specific outcome is becoming the global execution engine — distinct from Ethereum's settlement role — where all markets run on a single synchronized ledger. The downstream effects include traditional exchanges like NASDAQ running Solana nodes for direct integration, Visa and Mastercard potentially cutting out issuer and receiver banks (whose 2% margins are far more vulnerable than Visa's 10 basis point technology margin), and a new creator economy where tokens function as investable equity in content projects. The net result is a massive acceleration of American financial influence globally, with US-aligned crypto infrastructure spreading dollar dominance far beyond what legacy banking could achieve.

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NECESSARY CONDITION

Regulatory frameworks must remain permissive to innovation (avoiding the 'European' model) and open source development must remain unencumbered by downstream liability.

I think within 5 years the internet is going to be the largest holder of US treasuries.

I think within 5 years the internet is going to be the largest holder of US treasuries.

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RISK

Steel Man Counter-Thesis

Solana's thesis rests on becoming the singular global execution layer for all finance — but this vision contains a fundamental structural contradiction. The more successful Solana becomes at attracting regulated institutions (NASDAQ, BlackRock, banks), the more those institutions will demand governance influence, compliance-layer control, and ultimately the ability to fork or replicate the technology on their own terms. Solana's deliberate choice to be a protocol rather than an application layer means it is voluntarily ceding the value-capture position to the very incumbents it claims to disrupt. History shows that when infrastructure becomes critical, well-capitalized incumbents either acquire it, replicate it, or regulate it into commodity status — TCP/IP, SMTP, and HTTP created trillions in value but captured almost none at the protocol layer. Furthermore, the entire near-term catalyst (stable coin legislation, tokenized securities) is a political bet on a single US administration's crypto-friendly posture. Yakovenko's own 50/50 quantum timeline introduces a tail risk that could invalidate the cryptographic security model before institutional adoption reaches critical mass. Meanwhile, the continued proliferation of competing L1s and L2s (which Yakovenko acknowledges) suggests that even within crypto-native markets, Solana's execution speed advantage is necessary but not sufficient for winner-take-all outcomes — network effects in blockchain have historically proven far weaker than in traditional technology platforms, as evidenced by the persistence of multiple chains despite Ethereum's early dominance. The most likely outcome is that Solana becomes important infrastructure but captures a fraction of the value its thesis implies, while regulated incumbents capture the profitable customer-facing layers.

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RISK 01

RISK 01

Regulatory Dependency as Single Point of Failure

Regulatory Dependency as Single Point of Failure

THESIS

The entire Solana thesis — tokenized securities, real world assets on chain, creator equity tokens, stable coin proliferation — is almost entirely contingent on favorable US regulatory outcomes (Genius Act, Clarity Act, SEC posture under Sacks). Yakovenko explicitly acknowledges that the gap between Solana's technical capability and its actual use case deployment is 'a much harder legal and regulation problem than it is an engineering problem.' If the political environment shifts (new administration, legislative stalling, international regulatory divergence), the core thesis collapses back to memecoins and speculative tokens — the very use cases Yakovenko himself criticizes as inadequate. The $1-10 trillion stable coin estimate is entirely predicated on legislation that has not yet passed. A single Senate filibuster, a major stable coin blow-up (à la TerraUSD), or a change in executive branch priorities could delay this timeline by years, during which competitors or alternative architectures could emerge.

The entire Solana thesis — tokenized securities, real world assets on chain, creator equity tokens, stable coin proliferation — is almost entirely contingent on favorable US regulatory outcomes (Genius Act, Clarity Act, SEC posture under Sacks). Yakovenko explicitly acknowledges that the gap between Solana's technical capability and its actual use case deployment is 'a much harder legal and regulation problem than it is an engineering problem.' If the political environment shifts (new administration, legislative stalling, international regulatory divergence), the core thesis collapses back to memecoins and speculative tokens — the very use cases Yakovenko himself criticizes as inadequate. The $1-10 trillion stable coin estimate is entirely predicated on legislation that has not yet passed. A single Senate filibuster, a major stable coin blow-up (à la TerraUSD), or a change in executive branch priorities could delay this timeline by years, during which competitors or alternative architectures could emerge.

DEFENSE

Yakovenko frames regulation almost exclusively as a tailwind that is now arriving, citing Sacks and the Genius Act with high confidence. He never stress-tests the scenario where regulatory momentum stalls or reverses. He mentions spending $2M on lawyers as a historical problem but treats the current trajectory as locked in. There is no contingency narrative for a world where the Clarity Act fails or stable coin legislation is watered down. The political cycle risk (this is one administration's policy) is entirely unaddressed.

Yakovenko frames regulation almost exclusively as a tailwind that is now arriving, citing Sacks and the Genius Act with high confidence. He never stress-tests the scenario where regulatory momentum stalls or reverses. He mentions spending $2M on lawyers as a historical problem but treats the current trajectory as locked in. There is no contingency narrative for a world where the Clarity Act fails or stable coin legislation is watered down. The political cycle risk (this is one administration's policy) is entirely unaddressed.

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RISK 02

RISK 02

The NASDAQ Integration Paradox — Incumbents Capture Value, Solana Becomes Commoditized Infrastructure

The NASDAQ Integration Paradox — Incumbents Capture Value, Solana Becomes Commoditized Infrastructure

THESIS

Yakovenko's stated strategy is explicitly to NOT build the customer-facing exchange layer. He says 'We're never going to build an exchange that is onboarding US institutionals... We want NASDAQ to do that and to run it on Solana.' This is a deliberate choice to be infrastructure rather than the value-capture layer. However, this creates a profound risk: if NASDAQ, NYSE, or major banks integrate blockchain technology, they may choose to build proprietary or permissioned settlement layers, or they may use Solana temporarily and then migrate to their own stack once they understand the architecture. Yakovenko compares Solana to 'an email standard' — but email standards (SMTP) are free commoditized protocols that generated zero direct value for their creators. The analogy actually undermines the investment thesis. Furthermore, Visa and Mastercard, which Yakovenko identifies as technology companies that could disintermediate banks using stable coins, could equally build or adopt their own chain infrastructure, bypassing Solana entirely. The moat for a protocol layer is inherently thinner than for an application layer.

Yakovenko's stated strategy is explicitly to NOT build the customer-facing exchange layer. He says 'We're never going to build an exchange that is onboarding US institutionals... We want NASDAQ to do that and to run it on Solana.' This is a deliberate choice to be infrastructure rather than the value-capture layer. However, this creates a profound risk: if NASDAQ, NYSE, or major banks integrate blockchain technology, they may choose to build proprietary or permissioned settlement layers, or they may use Solana temporarily and then migrate to their own stack once they understand the architecture. Yakovenko compares Solana to 'an email standard' — but email standards (SMTP) are free commoditized protocols that generated zero direct value for their creators. The analogy actually undermines the investment thesis. Furthermore, Visa and Mastercard, which Yakovenko identifies as technology companies that could disintermediate banks using stable coins, could equally build or adopt their own chain infrastructure, bypassing Solana entirely. The moat for a protocol layer is inherently thinner than for an application layer.

DEFENSE

Yakovenko never addresses value capture mechanics at the protocol level. He frames the NASDAQ relationship as 'win-win' but doesn't explain why NASDAQ or any regulated incumbent would remain dependent on Solana rather than forking or building competing infrastructure once they have sufficient technical understanding. The email standard analogy he uses actually argues against protocol-level value accrual. He acknowledges that L1/L2 competition is proliferating ('people are going to keep launching L1s and L2s') but his only defense is 'as long as we're laser focused on improving the product' — a necessary but not sufficient condition for defensibility.

Yakovenko never addresses value capture mechanics at the protocol level. He frames the NASDAQ relationship as 'win-win' but doesn't explain why NASDAQ or any regulated incumbent would remain dependent on Solana rather than forking or building competing infrastructure once they have sufficient technical understanding. The email standard analogy he uses actually argues against protocol-level value accrual. He acknowledges that L1/L2 competition is proliferating ('people are going to keep launching L1s and L2s') but his only defense is 'as long as we're laser focused on improving the product' — a necessary but not sufficient condition for defensibility.

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RISK 03

RISK 03

Quantum Computing Threatens Cryptographic Foundations Faster Than Migration Can Occur

Quantum Computing Threatens Cryptographic Foundations Faster Than Migration Can Occur

THESIS

Yakovenko himself assigns a 50% probability to a quantum breakthrough within 5 years, driven by AI acceleration. He explicitly recommends migrating Bitcoin to quantum-resistant signature schemes. However, Solana — which he acknowledges is 'much more complicated' than Bitcoin — would face a far more difficult migration challenge. The complexity that enables Solana's performance is the same complexity that makes it harder to audit, upgrade, and secure against novel attack vectors. A quantum breakthrough that can run Shor's algorithm would break the elliptic curve cryptography underlying all current blockchain signature schemes. Unlike Bitcoin's simplicity which makes it more auditable and migratable, Solana's complex architecture with its high-throughput parallel transaction processing, Tower BFT consensus, and Gulf Stream transaction forwarding would require a far more intricate quantum-resistant overhaul. If the 50/50 quantum timeline materializes on the early side, Solana could face an existential security crisis before migration is complete.

Yakovenko himself assigns a 50% probability to a quantum breakthrough within 5 years, driven by AI acceleration. He explicitly recommends migrating Bitcoin to quantum-resistant signature schemes. However, Solana — which he acknowledges is 'much more complicated' than Bitcoin — would face a far more difficult migration challenge. The complexity that enables Solana's performance is the same complexity that makes it harder to audit, upgrade, and secure against novel attack vectors. A quantum breakthrough that can run Shor's algorithm would break the elliptic curve cryptography underlying all current blockchain signature schemes. Unlike Bitcoin's simplicity which makes it more auditable and migratable, Solana's complex architecture with its high-throughput parallel transaction processing, Tower BFT consensus, and Gulf Stream transaction forwarding would require a far more intricate quantum-resistant overhaul. If the 50/50 quantum timeline materializes on the early side, Solana could face an existential security crisis before migration is complete.

DEFENSE

Yakovenko partially addresses this by noting that migration should begin once Google and Apple adopt quantum-resistant cryptographic stacks, using consumer adoption as a signal. However, this is a reactive rather than proactive posture, and he does not address the asymmetry between Bitcoin's simple migration path and Solana's far more complex one. He acknowledges the risk exists but frames it primarily as an opportunity rather than a threat to his own protocol.

Yakovenko partially addresses this by noting that migration should begin once Google and Apple adopt quantum-resistant cryptographic stacks, using consumer adoption as a signal. However, this is a reactive rather than proactive posture, and he does not address the asymmetry between Bitcoin's simple migration path and Solana's far more complex one. He acknowledges the risk exists but frames it primarily as an opportunity rather than a threat to his own protocol.

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ASYMMETRIC SKEW

The downside is structurally underappreciated relative to the upside narrative. Upside requires simultaneous success across multiple independent vectors: favorable legislation passing and persisting across political cycles, institutional adoption choosing Solana over proprietary alternatives, quantum-resistant migration completing before a breakthrough, and protocol-level value capture defying historical precedent for open standards. Downside scenarios require only one of these vectors to fail. The thesis is a conjunction (all must go right), while the counter-thesis is a disjunction (any one failure mode is sufficient). This creates an unfavorable asymmetry where the probability-weighted downside may exceed the probability-weighted upside, even if the expected upside magnitude is very large in the success case.

ALPHA

NOISE

The Consensus

The market consensus holds that crypto infrastructure remains fragmented across competing L1/L2 chains, that traditional financial institutions (NASDAQ, banks, Visa/Mastercard) will retain structural advantages in regulated asset markets, that Ethereum is the dominant smart contract platform with Solana as a faster but riskier alternative, that stablecoins will grow modestly within existing regulatory frameworks, that quantum computing is a distant threat (10+ years), and that crypto-native social/creator economies remain speculative fringe experiments. The market also broadly views Bitcoin as sufficiently decentralized and resilient, and sees the intersection of AI and crypto as largely hype-driven with no killer use case yet.

The market's logic: Crypto adoption is gated by regulatory uncertainty, user complexity, and institutional inertia. Traditional financial institutions have regulatory moats, established customer relationships, and compliance infrastructure that crypto-native projects cannot easily replicate. L1/L2 proliferation suggests no single chain will dominate. Stablecoin growth is meaningful but constrained by banking relationships and regulatory frameworks. Ethereum's ecosystem effects and developer base give it durable competitive advantages. AI-crypto intersection lacks concrete use cases beyond speculative narratives. Quantum computing threatens cryptographic security but is too distant to warrant immediate action.

SIGNAL

The Variant

Yakovenko believes we are at an inflection point where the Genius Act and regulatory clarity will unlock $1-10 trillion in stablecoins on public permissionless chains within years, making 'the internet' the largest holder of US treasuries within 5 years — a structural transformation of global finance, not incremental growth. He sees Solana as positioned to become the singular global execution layer for all of finance (the 'Google of finance'), not merely one blockchain among many. He views traditional exchanges like NASDAQ as ultimately needing to run Solana nodes rather than building competing infrastructure. He believes banks are more disruptable than Visa/Mastercard (inverting the common narrative that payment networks are the vulnerable incumbents). He thinks quantum computing has a 50/50 chance of a meaningful breakthrough within 5 years (far sooner than consensus), and that crypto-native creator economies with token-based equity structures will eventually produce competitive alternatives to platforms like TikTok. He frames Bitcoin concentration risk as survivable and even an opportunity rather than an existential threat.

Yakovenko's causal logic rests on several interconnected claims: (1) The post-WWII financial system's APIs are 'fax machine based' — the infrastructure deficit is so severe that a rebuild on internet-native rails is inevitable, not optional. (2) Regulatory change (Genius Act, Clarity Act) is the binding constraint, not technology — once removed, adoption follows rapidly because the technology already works. (3) Solana's physics-optimized architecture (120ms global synchronization at speed of light) creates a winner-take-most dynamic because execution at the speed of physics is a hard ceiling competitors cannot exceed, only match. (4) The 'only free lunch in finance is uncorrelated assets' — real world assets on chain create genuine hedging capability that DeFi currently lacks, creating massive pull demand. (5) Banks are the vulnerable layer in payments, not Visa/Mastercard, because Visa's actual margin is only ~10 basis points while bank margins are ~2% — Visa is a technology company that could disintermediate its own banking partners using stablecoins. (6) Crypto adoption follows the same S-curve as web adoption — current complexity is analogous to explaining web links in 1992, not a permanent barrier. (7) AI acceleration is compressing quantum computing timelines by dramatically shortening the research-to-implementation cycle.

SOURCE OF THE EDGE

Yakovenko's edge has multiple layers of varying credibility. His strongest genuine advantage is as a builder-operator with deep architectural knowledge of distributed systems — his framing of blockchain as a physics problem (120ms speed-of-light constraint) and his understanding of the execution-vs-settlement distinction reflect real engineering insight that most market participants lack. His direct experience spending $2M of a $14M seed round on legal fees to launch a token gives him legitimate first-hand knowledge of regulatory friction costs. His conversations with banks, exchanges, and regulators provide real informational asymmetry about institutional intent. However, several of his claims are more narrative construction than structural edge: the '$1-10 trillion stablecoin' projection and 'internet as largest treasury holder within 5 years' are extrapolations that serve his positioning rather than claims backed by proprietary data. His dismissal of L1/L2 competition ('I love competition... until somebody wins it') is founder-speak that conflates confidence with evidence. His 50/50 quantum timeline is admittedly speculative. The 'long stablecoins, short banks' thesis is compelling but is a widely circulated view in crypto circles, not proprietary. Net assessment: Yakovenko has a genuine engineering and operator edge on *how* blockchain infrastructure works and *what* regulatory friction costs, but his macro timing calls and market size projections are narrative positioning by a maximally incentivized party. Weight the architectural and regulatory friction insights heavily; discount the macro timing and TAM projections accordingly.

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CONVICTION DETECTED

• Crypto will eventually win. It's inevitable. • I don't know if the industry would have survived another four years of the Gendler regime • Within 5 years the internet is going to be the largest holder of US treasuries • It'll be transformative • We actually have the best financial system in the world • It's the most trusted, the most robust • The toothpaste is out of the tube / the genie's out of the bottle • I can't stop it if I wanted to • The coolest piece of software written in the last 20 years • Bitcoin is resilient... it'll survive that • Proof of work is a masterpiece in terms of elegance and simplicity • A fast execution engine can also do settlement. That's kind of a feature. • We have a really good shot of actually becoming that global execution engine • Long stablecoins, short banks (implicit endorsement despite deflection)

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HEDGE DETECTED

• People estimate 1 to 10 trillion (attribution to others, wide range) • I'm an engineer, I cannot honestly comprehend how that's going to change finance • So we'll see what happens • I feel like 50/50 within 5 years there is a quantum breakthrough • If I could predict what could cause a price change, I'd be a lot more successful • It's just really really hard to attribute the work that you do • I don't want to say something lame like oh we have agents sending money around • Those projects really haven't taken off and really generated any momentum (on AI-crypto intersection) • Now we just need kind of the regulatory side to catch up • I'm not an investor, but maybe • I can't comment on this • All that will happen just 5 years from now or 10 years once we hit critical mass (vague timing) The ratio of conviction to hedging reveals a speaker who is genuinely certain about architectural and directional claims (Solana's technical superiority, crypto's inevitability, Bitcoin's resilience) but hedges meaningfully on timing, market predictions, and areas outside his engineering expertise. This is a credible pattern — it suggests authentic confidence in what he knows (systems design, regulatory friction) combined with honest intellectual humility about what he cannot know (price movements, exact timelines, AI-crypto convergence). This is not performed certainty; it is domain-bounded conviction. The thesis should be weighted heavily on structural and architectural claims, and discounted on specific timing and market-sizing projections.